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Ramshir, Messenger of Flames

agility Hero

by Pigzit Dec 04, 2025

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Ramshir, Messenger of Flames

Messenger of Flames is another take on the self-damage mechanic seen in heroes like Bloodseeker and Pudge, this time making your self damage increase your movement speed, and your other abilities and items you build turn that movement speed into damage, with two primary builds that differ in careful but impactful ways. The hero is near certainly a terrible support, as you will always need some ... View more

agility HERO

melee

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Preferred role

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COMPLEXITY

Scorching Blade
Scorching Blade

Scorching Blade

active ABILITY

Upgrades Scorching Blade

The Messenger of Flames sinks a magical smoldering dagger into target enemy, igniting their blood and stealing their lifeforce with it. Applies an attack with bonus magic damage to target enemy, re...

spell manacost

75

spell cooldown

20

Blazing Swiftness
Blazing Swiftness

Blazing Swiftness

active ABILITY

Toggled: Ramshir lights his boots aflame, causing him to slowly engulf in fire but gain increasing movement speed bonuses as the flame grows in intensity. Applies a stack of fire to Ramshir every 0...

spell manacost

50

spell cooldown

1

Immolent Zeal
Immolent Zeal

Immolent Zeal

autocast ABILITY

Passively causes Ramshirs attacks to apply an Immolation debuff to enemy heroes, dealing damage over time and increasing his movespeed based on the amount of enemies with the debuff. Immolated enem...

spell manacost

25

Infernal Form
Infernal Form

Infernal Form

ULTIMATE

active ABILITY

Upgrades Infernal Form

The Messenger of Flames succumbs to his volatile Infernal Form, exchanging his armor for bonus HP and doubling the max stacks on Blazing Swiftness for a short period of time. When activated, grants...

spell manacost

100/75/50

spell cooldown

80/70/60

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+ TOTAL GAIN

AGILITY

+PER LEVEL

+ TOTAL GAIN

INTELLIGENCE

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VISION

ABILITIES

THIS IDEA CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 4 ABILITIES

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Showing abilities of Ramshir, Messenger of Flames

Scorching Blade

Scorching Blade

Blazing Swiftness

Blazing Swiftness

Immolent Zeal

Immolent Zeal

Infernal Form

Infernal Form

BASIC

Scorching Blade

Scorching Blade

TYPE active

DAMAGE magical

TARGET MODE unit

The Messenger of Flames sinks a magical smoldering dagger into target enemy, igniting their blood and stealing their lifeforce with it. Applies an attack with bonus magic damage to target enemy, reducing their magic resistance for a short duration and granting it to Ramshir.

CAST RANGE 250

STEAL DURATION 15

MAGIC RESISTANCE STEAL 10%/15%/20%/25%

ATTACK MAGIC DMG 100/115/130/145

Aghanim's Shard
Upgrades Scorching Blade

Scorching Blade becomes a charge based ability with 2 charges. Increases cast range by 200 and bonus magic damage by 65.

spell manacost

75

spell cooldown

20

ADVANCED

AVAILABLE FROM LEVEL

1

ABILITY MAX LEVEL

4

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SPECIFIED RULES

castable when leashed: YES

blocked by Linken's Sphere: YES

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AGHANIM'S SCEPTER

Messenger of Flames gains free pathing and destroys trees in a 250 radius of him while under Infernal Form. Leaves a lingering trail of fire behind him that deals the damage he is receiving from Blazing Swiftness as magic damage per second to anyone who stands in it. Trail lingers for 5 seconds, is 175 units wide, and the magic damage is calculated before Ramshirs reductions.

Upgrades Infernal Form

AGHANIM'S SHARD

Scorching Blade becomes a charge based ability with 2 charges. Increases cast range by 200 and bonus magic damage by 65.

Upgrades Scorching Blade

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+8s Infernal Form Duration

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25

+50 Infernal Form Armor to HP

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+10% Zeal Movespeed to Damage

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20

+280 Immolent Zeal Spread Radius

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-5s Scorching Blade Cooldown

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15

+2.5 Blazing Swiftness Movespeed

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+5 Max Blazing Swiftness Stacks

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10

+8% Scorching Blade Resistance Steal

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ITEM & SKILL BUILDS

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Carry Ramshir

hard carry
The primary goal of the Carry Ramshir build is to increase your movement speed and sustain for long drawn out teamfights, where you are running to and attacking as many enemies at a time to further increase your movespeed through Immolent Zeal. The way this build deals with Blazing Swiftness self damage is through BKB and outhealing the damage through lifesteal. MoM is a great pickup here because you can toggle W and E on, pop your ultimate, and use MoM to deal mass damage for the majority of your ult without being affected by the armor reduction, as the bonus HP you get through your armor value cannot be changed while your ult is active, and the silence is meaningless when your three most important abilities in this build are one time toggles.
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Spellcaster Ramshir

mid laner
The primary goal of the Spellcaster Ramshir build is to deal as much AOE magic damage as possible with Immolent Zeals Immolation and Infernal Forms Aghs Scepter-upgraded fire trail. The way this build deals with the Blazing Swiftness self damage is through stacking magic resistance with items like Mage Slayer and Hood, and Aghs Shards two charge bonus to Scorching Blade. It is important to not buy BKB or activate Hood when you are on the offensive, as the Scepter fire trails damage is dealt based on the damage you are receiving after reductions. Damage block is not a reduction, it is a damage negation, and although the movespeed buff from Blazing Swiftness pierces spell immunity, the magic damage does not, so your fire trail will deal 0 damage while you are spell immune. Refresher Orb is especially good here, as you can refresh your ult, all of your Scorching Blade charges (giving you effectively quadruple the magic resistance bonuses) and Shivas active. This will more than double your damage potential in each fight and increase the time you can reign chaos.
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Messenger of Flames is another take on the self-damage mechanic seen in heroes like Bloodseeker and Pudge, this time making your self damage increase your movement speed, and your other abilities and items you build turn that movement speed into damage, with two primary builds that differ in careful but impactful ways. The hero is near certainly a terrible support, as you will always need some amount of items and will always want to be in fights for as long as possible, and contesting enemy cores with your life expendably. You also farm absurdly quickly with Immolation, and this hero might be one of the best stack takers in the game, likely behind only Templar Assassin and Bristleback in reliability, and Leshrac in speed. The two primary builds that I suspect are the best way to utilize your abilities to their greatest potential are drastically different in the way they deal damage. One of them is a spellcaster+magic resistance build that aims to deal as much amplified magic damage as possible through the Aghs Scepter upgraded ultimate, and the other is a physical attack damage+lifesteal build that uses Immolent Zeals attack damage from movespeed scaling to chase down enemy heroes and pummel them with physical damage. I have outlined both of these builds and given a short writeup on each of them above. I will list a few other notes of interest about the hero here. In an offlane position especially they are strangely good at diving towers, as Immolation will shove waves incredibly quickly and cause the enemy safelaners to light eachother and their creeps on fire as they are jumped. This becomes especially good when Messenger reaches level 6 and gains a whopping 1800 bonus health for 8 seconds during his ult (at level 6 with Phase, 2x Wraith Band, and RoP). And in any lane he is great at denying enemy cores from farming, as whenever he attacks the wave Immolation will engulf any heroes nearby trying to last hit or deny in flames, disrupting them from approaching creeps or allies for many precious seconds of their lane. This also gives him ample time to farm the hard camp or make stacks in the jungle, given that his waves will near always push. Let me know what you think! If you have any other item build ideas or catch something I might have missed, let me know. If any numbers or skills seem wrong or you would like some clarification on something (the abilities are oddly complex in some areas) post a comment and I will be happy to discuss the hero and my thought process!

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Hero Art: Magali Villeneuve (Q) Scorching Blade: Simon Labreche (W) Blazing Swiftness: Manuel Castanon (E) Immolent Zeal: Lucas Graciano (R) Infernal Form: Joe Slucher

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frenky

frenky commented 3 years ago

Cool take on "Bloodseeker" type hero. I really like the first ability stealing magic resistance. Also found funny 2 opponents endlessly igniting each other with Immolent Zeal, shit would be wild in herald.
Pigzit

Pigzit replied 3 years ago

LMAO yeah that was a hope, kinda like Arc Warden flux but worse for the heralds haha
Peetrek

Peetrek commented 3 years ago

men, magic resistance steal sound awesome..im in